House of Eratosthenes

I see fellow Blogs-For-Palin blog Conservatives4Palin put up a post telling us this was the right choice to make. Could be, but I gotta tell ya Mr. Lazaran: I read that Palin Facebook entry from top to bottom. I didn’t see one single thing about Carly Fiorina that wasn’t also true of Chuck DeVore. And that remains true of your entry as well. Yes, I’m including the “Carly can beat Barbara Boxer” thing in that.

But I see it as a matter of interpretation. My interpretation of whatever movement Palin is trying to get going here, is a long-overdue one — what will ultimately be a successful one — in which the nation pulls its head out of its butt. It’s gonna happen; it’s happened many times before. It’s clockwork. Every sixteen years we put the kiddies in charge, then when the damage is done we pull our head out of our butt. It becomes an inevitability when we cannot afford the consequences of childlike thinking being invested with real power.

Why did Palin do this? Maybe her rationale is that the movement is more likely to succeed, if it creates a good-ol’-boy network of its own. That’s the trouble with rebellions. Sooner or later they have to be organized, somewhat; and in order to organize they have to germinate an inconsistency with their basic philosophical purpose which is to rebel. If they aren’t purely anarchist movements and they really have something to say, they have to eventually confront this dichotomy (sometimes it happens even if they have nothing to say).

Given that reality, the time might be right to rally behind an “establishment rebel” and maybe that’s Fiorina. But if this decision was supposed to have been about retaining pull-the-nation’s-head-outta-its-butt principles, then this one was a dud. DeVore’s credentials are superior, and if the choice was mine it would just come down to just that.

There is another possibility behind what Palin did here, a really ugly one: Perhaps she sees her history-making wave of support as a revolution of females, and her mandate as one of “Put the girls in charge of everything no matter what.” In other words, maybe she sees her support from brutish males like me as a gesture of resignation. Screw it, let’s let the chicks handle everything. Sonia Sotomayor said it best: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion.” Let me be blunt: If our newest associate justice isn’t smart enough to see what’s wrong with that, I think Palin is. But after yesterday’s letdown I’d like to see some evidence.

Palin supporters deserve no less. A large number among us have donated our time and money specifically for the purpose of defeating the scourge of identity politics. Or at least trying to.

Respectfully disagree. I think trying to get rid of ‘identity politics’ is tilting at windmills. We (people) are fundamentally tribal. I don’t want the chance to unseat that bitch Boxer missed by putting up another well qualified man (remember Herschenson?) against that psycho, dirty tricks pulling Boxer.

Putting up a woman takes away half or more of Boxer’s arsenal, and Carly has cut through the clutter with her blimp ads. DeVore would be agreat senator if he won, which I don’t think he can. Perhaps he can go after Feinstein’s seat when it comes up.
- HoundOfDoom | 05/07/2010 @ 06:28
Respectfully disagree. I think trying to get rid of ‘identity politics’ is tilting at windmills. We (people) are fundamentally tribal.

That’s an interesting point, and your observation about human nature is dead on-the-money. But government labors under no obligation to act upon such a human failing; quite to the contrary, in our country it is obliged to see to it that the failing is kept out of our public policy (equal protection clause, 14th amend.). Because government has this obligation, so do candidates. Even “soft” candidates whose efforts remain undefined, like Palin.

I don’t want the chance to unseat that bitch Boxer missed by putting up another well qualified man (remember Herschenson?) against that psycho, dirty tricks pulling Boxer. Putting up a woman takes away half or more of Boxer’s arsenal…

No argument there. I would submit, though, that the DeVore/Fiorina base is a single body; which is to say, that set of voters who would favor Fiorina should DeVore drop out, is identical to the set of voters who would favor DeVore if Fiorina drops out. Real life seldom falls into line with such precise set-arithmetic, but I’ll bet this present scenario is very, very close to that.

But that could be a losing bet. California females do tend to be a petty, vindictive bunch.

I see this question as one of time. All rebellions, as I said above, eventually have to embrace vertical organization as a fundamental necessity unless they’re completely anarchistic by nature. So this “Tea Party” sailboat needs to tack out to sea, until such time as its philosophical point has been made, at which time it needs to veer inland and start to embrace that part of the establishment that is friendly to it. It seems Palin’s sense is, at least in California, that this time has come. I disagree. Once you factor in these urban meccas like LA and Okland/SF, our growing fatigue with liberal douchebag ideas becomes watered down and we start voting for climate change alarmists, abortion salesmen and union hacks. Most people in the state are really fed up with it though, and they’ll say so at the ballot box if only they’re given a candidate through whom the message can be expressed.

I find it hard to accept that the “only gonna vote for a girl” females have to be courted this way. Didn’t the democrats tell ’em to go to hell two years ago, when they picked Obama over Hillary? They had a “PUMA” movement (party unity, my ass). That was supposed to get a message across. It didn’t. It was an historical gelding.
- mkfreeberg | 05/07/2010 @ 14:12
the DeVore/Fiorina base is a single body

On the Republican side it is, however, in the general, we need to peel away enough women to win.

I don’t thnk Cali. women are vindictive, just agressively uninformed. I live amongst enough mommies to know that they turned off their brains once they dropped their litter and checked out of the work force. They’ll vote for the woman without knowing anything about the election.

They are, however, a wonderful source of decorating knowledge.

Believe me, throwing out babs will make the point about warmers, etc., no matter who does it. Or as much as the media will spin it. I can see it now, she had a great run, she was tired, it’s best for Barbara, the party in charge always loses seats in mid terms, California is unprecictible, blah, blah, blah. You can write it as well as I.

IMHO, the PUMAs were a lot of noise and fury, signifying nothing. The dems had drunk the Barry Kool-aid and nothing on the planet was going to cause them to not nominate the bastard.

I think that Sarah is trying to thread the needle. I’m watching with interest to see how well she does. If she can steer the bus from the back seat, that’s better in some ways than being the driver.
- HoundOfDoom | 05/08/2010 @ 10:12
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