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Over on the Hello Kitty of Blogging, Refounders is asking the question.
My response:
It’s just common sense. Someone’s trying to build something, you help them or get out of the way. Someone’s trying to destroy something, you move to stop them. If something works well, you keep on doing it, and if it’s been given a few shots and has never panned out then you shelve it.
The reason this looks so much more complicated than it really is, is that it’s hard to demonstrate the true nature of something without contrasting it with something else. And when you place conservatism alongside liberalism, liberalism tends to want to talk about some things and not other things. There are many examples of what I’m talking about but I’ll just stick with “working families” as the best one. When liberals use this term, they don’t want you to take it literally, like “working families should keep more of their money” — you’re supposed to implicitly understand it means “people who make less than some amount, whether they work or not.” So you translate “working families keep more of their money” to mean “working families who make more than half a million a year, getting a tax cut” and of course while this logically qualifies, it is no longer within the class that the liberal is really trying to describe.
None of which comes as a shock to anybody. The problem is, though, that the liberal doesn’t clarify this point by using a more appropriate and accurate terminology — he clarifies it by steering the conversation, laying down rules that this thing over here can be discussed, and that thing over there cannot be. As this is accommodated, we all start using phrases and words to describe concepts quite different from what they are supposed to mean. Another of my favorites is “build a society that functions in the best interests of everyone” or “that works for everyone.” Again, the liberal will demand that some things be discussed, and other things will not be — so we end up using the word “everyone” to describe a concept that has very little to do with the real meaning of “everyone.”
I do not mean to blame the liberal for this. Quite the opposite. We have been like warm putty in the liberals’ hands, and as a direct result of this they have become…ah, what’s the word. Audacious. And so we all end up using lots of words apart from their intended purposes. Skeptic, diversity, egalitarian, science…
This makes it tough to define liberalism, which poses some challenges in defining conservatism. The biggest obstacle to this is encountered when the liberal is actually engaged; they think their cause is noble, and so if honesty would reverse course on their progress even a little tiny bit, I’ve found a lot of them will stoop to deception without a moment’s conscious thought. At the very least, they’ll change the subject, on a macro- or a micro-level.
That’s not to impugn their character by the way. It’s a human thing they’re doing. I think these are mostly decent people who have moved past that zone where you’re willing to entertain a discussion about what to do, and want to see the chosen strategy implemented. They’ve lost their curiosity and can’t get it back again.
Which, by itself, doesn’t bring them into conflict with conservatives. They enter into conflict with conservatives when their chosen approach is offensive to a) a reasoned analysis of the problem, and its true nature; and/or b) history.
Therefore, I submit all significant conservative/liberal dust-ups fall into this pattern: The liberal wants a certain thing done, because there is a “good” class of people and a “bad” class of people, and the solution should work for the good people and against the bad people. The conservative is left stammering something equivalent to “What in…how in blazes is that supposed to solve the prob-a-luhm???” For daring to utter so much as a peep of protest against the solution the liberal has figured out is obviously the right way to go, the liberal calls the conservative stupid.
Of course, often the conservative retaliates in kind, which is the wrong way to go. If that happens, then you just have two people who disagree with each other calling each other stupid. This is where the true distinction becomes not only lost, but buried deep down.
One way this happens most reliably by means of the switcheroo. This is where the conservative and liberal start out with a productive exchange of ideas, reaching the point where they successfully figure out their difference of opinion comes from a difference of understanding of the basic facts. And so they examine the facts — the liberal discovers his facts are in error, and the conservative’s facts seem to be in order. And so the liberal “switcheroos” the conversation to a pissing contest, of sorts, about which person is more decent. It’s a subconscious, face-saving sort of thing. As if to say “okay, you caught me being mistaken, but it doesn’t matter because I’m a better person than you are.” Again, this is human. It is hard-wired into us from centuries of agrarian living.
It would be nice if the liberal could be somehow persuaded to stay on topic, stay away from ad hominem, to use words for their intended meaning and for none other…unless properly qualifying them. To say, instead of “working families,” something more honest like “people who have a lifestyle like mine, and don’t make any more money than I do or have anything I don’t have…plus all the lazy people who think work is for suckers.”
Maybe if their drink was spiked with some kind of drug. A truth serum of sorts.
I think, then, such a discussion would not bring the two sides together. But it would prove my point. The liberal would say “I want taxes to go up on everyone who makes more money than I do and that will fix everything.” The conservative would then say “Who is going to start a business that might hire people, if there’s no profit involved in it?” And the liberal, rather than calling the conservative a dupe and a shill for “big business” and “evil corporations,” would instead do the sensible and honest thing and fess up: “Yeah, but it makes me feel good. I like the idea of people being taxed more when they aren’t exactly like me. Makes me happy.”
And the conservative would rightfully point out “but logic and history both affirm that you’d be wrecking the economy.” And rather than chasing off down some bunny trail that has to do with brandishing some “ism” as a cudgel, the liberal would simply say something like “I know, but it’s worth it to me. And I can’t handle being told no.”
Anyway, that’s what conservatism is; you can’t define it without defining liberalism, since conservatism is opposition to something. It opposes destruction and narcissism. It’s not about making liberals feel bad; it opposes finding solutions that are counterproductive, just because they happen to make liberals feel good.
Conservatism, contrary to popular belief, is about progress. It is about linear development. It does not advance wholesale abandonment of ideas that have failed. Instead, it proposes isolation of those ideas. They can be retired from production, while their most zealous and resourceful advocates tinker with them and find out what it takes to make them work.
Liberalism, on the other hand, advocates circular development. When an idea is found not to work, it is to be tried again, often without any significant change whatsoever from what was found to have failed.
Also, liberalism is about putting the new or unverified or previously-failed idea out on the production floor. Liberalism always insists that there be no way possible for anyone to get away from it.
This last one, I haven’t figured out. Do they consciously understand that, if the conservative idea were to be deployed into test sandbox A and the liberal idea were to be deployed into sandbox B, sandbox A would yield the more beneficial results and it would be embarrassing? Or is it just the political leaders who understand this, with the “man in the street” liberals just slavishly following along? I don’t know. But I do know this point of universal enactment, with complete eradication of any possible opt-out, is critically important to them. It is very often, across an abundance of unrelated issues, a non-negotiable item. And it is very rare that they are called upon to explain why this is.
Anyway, in the final analysis, conservatism is something adults do — something they must do, if they are to survive in any setting in which people take responsibility for the effects of what they do. It accepts ideas that work, rejects ideas that do not work, and among the ideas it rejects most quickly and forcefully is the idea that people need to be knocked down a few pegs when they happen to have achieved success.
Cross-posted at Washington Rebel.
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Excellent post. I especially like this: And rather than chasing off down some bunny trail that has to do with brandishing some “ism” as a cudgel, the liberal would simply say something like “I know, but it’s worth it to me. And I can’t handle being told no.”
In my uncharitable moments — which are growing ever more frequent — I think liberalism boils down to nothing more than the brains of the high school debate team captain tethered to the emotions of a spoiled five year old. The kid breaks his toy. You tell him he can’t have another toy, since he clearly can’t be trusted not to break it. He throws an hour-long hissy fit. All kids do this, but eventually most of them wise up and conclude “hey, I’d better take care of the stuff I have, because if I don’t, I’m never getting another one.” The kids that don’t go off to college and major in protest studies and learn words like “subaltern” and make a nice little career out of clever cardboard signs.
In my more charitable moments, I think that one of the hoariest of liberal cliches is in fact true, and we “need more education.” Specifically, we need more education in formal logic. I only took a semester of it myself in college — I thought it would be easier than calculus — and didn’t do so hot, but I did learn one very important thing: the notion of valid vs. invalid inference. Liberals seemingly never run across this, and so continue making “underpants gnome” arguments.
[Indeed, the best refutation of liberalism tout court I’ve ever read is David Stove’s two part essay “Idealism: A Victorian Horror Story.” The intellectual foundations of every harebrained liberal idea I’ve ever come across boils down to what Stove calls the “Gem” argument. It’s too long to summarize adequately here, but you can find it in his The Plato Cult and Other Philosophical Follies.]
As to this: this point of universal enactment, with complete eradication of any possible opt-out, I think it comes straight from Marx. Just as many conservative ideas come straight out of Hayek even if we haven’t read Hayek (and I haven’t, sad to say), most liberal tactics are pure Communist Manifesto. One can’t opt out of The Iron-bound Laws of History, dontcha know. You can try, of course, but then the Vanguard of the Proletariat is perfectly justified in “reeducating” you. For the greater good. Can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs and all that.
- Severian | 12/22/2010 @ 06:17I think to accurately define liberals you need to break it up into leaders and followers, then further break down followers.
The Leaders deserve no charity whatsoever by describing them as “mostly descent people”. They are narcissistic, power-hungry, and elitist, and will do whatever it takes to control the rest of us. They know exactly what they want to achieve, but hide their true intentions while trying to get the power they’re after.
Followers, on the other hand, we might break down into those who are “engaged”, and those who are not. The engaged follow politics, read blogs, and desperately want to be considered elite, intellectual smart people, all of which is automatically bestowed upon anyone professing liberal beliefs. If you are liberal you are smart, and if you are smart you are liberal… nice little circular reasoning, and all you have to do is repeat bumper stickers like “Bush Lied, People Died”, and they invite you to their parties where they all discuss how smart and caring they are. These are the people you describe above. Mostly descent I guess, but delusional.
Then we have the un-engaged, un-informed millions of voters who vote liberal/democrat because of culture, tradition, family or they just want to keep that government check coming. You’ll also find the special interests here, who have been convinced/fooled by 50 years of propaganda into thinking Republicans/conservatives are nothing but war-mongering, hate-filled, racist, homophobic, neanderthals.
- tillurdizzy | 12/22/2010 @ 09:50I think to accurately define liberals you need to break it up into leaders and followers, then further break down followers.
Good point, and that’s a sensible way you’ve got of breaking it up.
I wonder how many votes they’d lose if liberalism lost its appeal as the most fashionable way to display your inner goodness? I seem to recall thirty years ago there was a “mellowspeak” fad that originated in Marin County. Didn’t last long. What kind of nudge would it take to push liberalism over the same brink?
- mkfreeberg | 12/22/2010 @ 10:11